Pit Bulls Get a Bad Rap, Owners Say
Local shelter says dogs are victims of overbreeding, abandonment.
Last week, we reported on a drug raid in the West Ward in which a dealer allegedly kept heroin under the bed where his 2-year-old son was sleeping.
Readers were disturbed by that detail, but also by another one: The story noted the presence of a pit bull in the apartment at the time of the raid. Fans of the breed say it's another example of pit bulls getting a bad rap.
"Had the dog been a Labrador retriever or a dachshund or any other breed, would the breed have been mentioned?" wrote reader Dave Rex. "On behalf of all the gentle and loving bully breeds in the West Ward: we resent the implication of guilt by association."
One of those pit bulls is Ace, adopted last year by West Ward resident Patti Berger.
Berger already owned another dog—a Huskie—but wanted to get a second one after a break-in at her home. Huskies, it turns out, aren't very good watch dogs.
“When the police came, they were convinced my dog had been drugged," she said.
Berger wanted a way to protect her home, but didn't want to install an alarm system or—given the presence of kids in the house—buy a gun.
“And I didn’t want a mean dog, and I didn’t want a vicious dog," she said. "I just wanted somebody to make me feel safe, and protected, and be a family member.”
That's what Ace has become, Berger said. He's a "big baby" and a popular presence in her neighborhood.
“It never occurred to me to be wary of him," she said. "I don’t want to paint a dog with a wide brush.”
But that's what began happening with pit bulls in the 1990s, Pamela Reid of the ASPCA’s Animal Behavior Center told WebMD last year. The dogs became popular among owners who "weren’t focused on the positive attributes of the breed - they were looking for a strong, scary-looking dog."
And anyone who's watched/read the news in the last 20 years has probably seen quite a few stories that have dealt with the ugly/scary side of the breed, from random dog attack pieces to the coverage of the NFL star Michael Vick's dog-fighting ring.
Closer to home, a pit bull attacked and injured a smaller dog last month in Salisbury Township. And last year, Easton police shot and killed one of the dogs during a raid after it apparently tried to bite officers.
They're a controversial breed, as the comments section on the Salisbury dog attack story indicates. A Google search of "pit bull myths" leads you down a rabbit hole of debate about the dogs.
Despite the efforts of pit bull owners to rehabilitate the dogs' public image, some states and cities have passed what's known as breed-specific legislation banning pit bulls and other dogs.
Pennsylvania—and its cities—have no such laws, according to DogsBite.org, a dog-bite-victim advocacy group.
Locally, shelters are seeing a glut of pit bulls, either abandoned or coming from less-than-reputable owners, said Andrew Flegler, shelter manager at the Center for Animal Health and Welfare.
"They’re just being overbred right now," he said. "We’re being overwhelmed by them."
Flegler noted that pit bulls are hard to define. The term has become sort of a catch-all for a wide variety of dogs.
"If you look at a German shepherd, you can tell it’s a German shepherd," he said. Do a mouth swab on a pit bull and you might come back with DNA for four different kinds of dog.
He said the shelter takes steps to make sure pit bulls go to good homes.
That's what happened with Ace and the Berger family. Patti Berger said a series of home visits were required before her dog could join the family. Now, she looks at Ace and feels like he and his kind have become the victim of a bad marketing campaign.
“This is the same breed that was Petey from The Little Rascals," said Berger, who argues that a dog will only be as good as its owner.
Even some of Michael Vick's fighting dogs, who underwent some truly horrific abuse, have been rehabilitated.
Jim Gorant, a writer for Sports Illustrated, chronicled their recovery in his book The Lost Dogs.
As he told NPR in 2010, Vick's case might have been "the best thing that ever happened to pit bulls," by allowing people to see them like any other dogs:
"And a lot varies from each one to another and then how they're raised and socialized and all of these issues that go around them," Gorant said. "You can find the sweetest, most loving pit bulls in the world and you can find other dogs that are as mean as you want."
Thinking about getting a pit bull? Here's some things to consider to help socialize your dog, according to the ASPCA:
- If your pit bull is friendly with other dogs, maintain that socialization by meeting up with friends or going to the dog park. (As long as your dog doesn’t get too rowdy in that kind of setting.)
- Monitor your dog’s play and be prepared to distract your dog if she gets too intimidating.
- If your dog isn’t friendly with other dogs, make sure he’s on a leash and there are no unleashed dogs around.
- When it comes to other pets, take introductions slowly. Some dogs are fine with other animals, others aren't.
The ASPCA also says that other facts lead to dog attack cases beyond just the breed of the animal:
- More than 70 percent of dog bite cases involve unneutered male dogs.
- An unneutered male dog is 2.6 times more likely to bite than one that hasn't been neutered, while a chained/tethered dog is 2.8 times more likely to bite than one that isn't chained or tethered.
- Most dog attacks involve non-spayed/neutered animals.
Cruiser
4:35 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Nobody seemed to be disturbed by the fact that the drugs were found under the baby? I guess the baby is guilty by association? Or does everyone expect there to be a baby in close proximity to the drugs?
debbie bell
12:15 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Please! Do not suggest that pits attend dog parks. Most pit websites say "no dog parks for pits".
This is because there is no way to anticipate when rough play or a simple squabble can escalate into a blood bath. GOOD pit bulls do feel good while mauling, because that is what pits were selectively bred, over 200 years, to do.
The UKC was founded in 1898 to register the pit bull, The American Pit Bull Terrier. AKD American Staffordshire Terriers are sometimes dual registered as AST. The UKC "wrote the book" on dog fighting/pit contests. Pits are the best at dog fighting. Proof is that essentially ALL US dog fighters use only pits.
The traits that make pits the best fighters is the "good" pit bull behavior to not need a reason to attack, to not try to avoid a confrontation and to not give warning before attacking, to immediately do damage, to not stop even if the other submits, yelps uncle, is down/dying (most non-fighting dogs stop attacking if the other submits, often without severe injury) to not stop fighting even after suffering severe injury themselves. Kick an attacking border collie and she yelps and immediately retreats. Kick an attacking "good" pit bull and he won't even flinch.
Unless you wish to support dog fighting and thug ownership of pits, let's stop breeding pits. They suffer too from their man-made handicaps.
Ban pit breeding and sale. Let pits mercifully become extinct.
debbie bell
1:21 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Most pts are not pets, but weapons or buglary devices, as this article mentions. Therefore, their welfare is not of importance. Therefore they are usually not spayed/neutered. Therefore they are breeding and dying like flies; they fill our pounds where they must be killed by the ton, if only to empty runs for the next swarm of pits to enter the pound.
The current pit bully people do not care about pitbulls/ dog welfare, just at the original pit men did not care about pitbulls. They enjoyed watching their "kill or die trying" pits battle each other. They current pit bully people accept the current disproportionate dog suffering and death both caused by and suffered by pits.
Pit bully people only care about themselves and their ability to breed/acquire/own the dog of their choice. Suffering and dead dogs? "What problem?", say the pit bully people.
Heather R
9:36 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
The two comments above are the most moronic statements. It's close minded individuals like you that don't understandable breed and feed the wrong public perception. I grew up with Rottweilers who were the pit bulls of the 80's. I just inherited a 7 month old PB puppy from my daughter that couldn't keep her. She's been w us since 10 wks old. We have 4 cats that kick her ass all over this house. She has never once bit them. I have a 2 1/2 yr old grandbaby. Callie sleeps with her from the time she goes down til she wakes up to watch over her. She will bark & go to the door when someone knocks just as my Rottweilers did. They walked all over my farm w me. These dogs have protective instincts as any dog does but their first instinct is not to attack & win anything. Get your facts straight and learn about the breed before you start spouting incorrect information as a fact.
Anette Frierson
10:04 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
I SO agree with Heather... debbie I actually recent your replies. I am a MOM with 2 beautiful children and the most wonderful, loving PB. I am far from being a THUG. It's people LIKE YOU that give PB a bad wrap not the owners !
debbie bell
6:06 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Question: Where did your daughter get her pit puppy?
While that is nice that all your pit experiences have been positive, and while most pits do not attack, AND your pit might not be a "good" pit, remember if your pit is a GOOD pit and instinct does suddenly sweep over her pit bull mind:
she won't need a reason to begin tugging
she won't give warning before attacking
she won't try to avoid a confrontation
she won't stop even if the victim submits/yelps/says uncle
she won't stop even after suffering severe injury
You will be amazed how happy she looks while tugging and crushing
you will be amazed how difficult it is to make her stop
and if she is still alive after you free the victim, she would love to go back to snuggling on the couch.
These behaviors were/are essential for pits to be the best fighting dogs. Pits do not need to be abused or angry to act on instinct, any more than a beagle needs to be abused or angry to chase rabbits. It is never the dog's fault, but it is the fault of pit breeders, buyers and pit mongers that these handicapped powerful dogs infest most communities, where they both disproportionately suffer and die and cause suffering and death.
Today, March 6, a 14 month old child needed to be airlifted to a trauma center. Both pits involved with the attack have been euthanized. I doubt the adults in this home knew their pits would attack today, but attack they did, because they were "good" pits.
Janet Siano
10:56 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Debbie Bell should learn something about Pit Bulls before spouting her thoughts. Her comments are inappropriate and incorrect. It's so sad that people like her are the ones that are harming the reputation of Pit Bulls. We need more people who are willing to open their hearts and homes and adopt these dogs so they can live normal lives. My son has adopted two Pits in the last three years and has three small children who adore them. They would have been put down had he not saved them and made them part of his family. Shame on Debbie and people who think like her.
Janet S.
debbie bell
6:20 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Oh, I used to think that pits were normal dogs. That's before pit puppies our rescue adopted to loving homes grew up to suddenly kill their BFF housemate dogs, without showing any issues. Just bloodbath one day, Period.
When our multi-breed rescue gets calls from pit owners, we learn from that too. The dog was raised from puppy with their other dogs. Suddenly, without a growl or a bark, suddenly the pit had his jaws clenched onto the victim dog. One moment he's stretched out on the floor, Then he's up and tugging on the larger, senior dog. "She was screaming, yelping trying to get away. She couldn't get loose, She never fought back. We couldn't get him off her. We had to beat him with a chair, Now we want him GONE!" Now he's cold, in the dark, in the basement on the concrete, bruised and battered. He doesn't know what happened, but he'll probably soon be dead, as we can offer him no hope. We won't risk the welfare of our foster families by putting a dog like him in a home with others.
The attack on the child never made the news. No one involved wanted to talk about it. The young child was chewed from the top of her head to the bottom of her toes, suffering puncture wounds and lacerations/150 stitches. The dog that attacked was 3 years old and they trusted her completely! Now they want all their other pits gone NOW. They are afraid of them, even tho the other dogs are seemingly sweet and friendly, they learned the hard way too.
tamarya
9:13 pm on Friday, March 29, 2013
You rescue dogs debbie? Yes I am sure that pit came from a loving family that was treated great thats why the dog was relinquished by the owners, usually people that want their animals and raise them right keep them till they either get the one way trip to the vet or they pass on their own. And the pit got agressive so you beat it and left it bruised and now neglecting it and you call yourself a rescue.
Lynn
12:27 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
Debbie Bell, Please take a few moments to educate yourself. Please go to the Animal Farm foundation website and read read, read. www.animalfarmfoundation.org
I am a proud person who sleeps with two Pit Bulls. I know my dogs well and treat them as individuals, as I would any dog of any breed I would ever own One should never assume any dog is friendly, and one should never use general statements concerning any breed. If you read national statistics, you will find the truth. If you continue to live in your own reality, please don't repeat non-truths.
Dave Rex
12:35 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
Thank you, Lynn, for your kind words. The handsome boy pictured in this article has a sweet and largely submissive disposition. He happens to be good friends with my pit, Chien Na Wei. The most important things for pits are exercise, discipline and affection. Given plenty of each, they can be wonderful, loyal and affectionate dogs.
debbie bell
2:42 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
So I am to understand that the current pit bull situation is all OK with you?
Pits fill our pounds from coast to coast, where they die by the ton, all because too many are being born. Pit mongers encourage the acquisition of pit puppies and therefore the breeding of too many pits. The numbers at the pounds are just a portion of the numbers of suffering, dying pits.
Watch the Chicago Dog Fighting Documentary. Dog fighting continues to grow. Our multi-breed rescue doesn't accept or place pits, as we learned the hard way. . We can offer no referral to the "good" pits who matured to have the instinct to be dog aggressive. It is not the dog's fault that he is good gamebred and his family failed to socialize him correctly. Had they instead chosen a non-bully dog, he wouldn't be trying to chew through the chain link to kill the neighbor dog. Now he will either be a fighting dog or dead because all the pit rescues are full and overflowing and will not even return the owner's phone calls/emails.
When the pit owners call our multi-breed rescue looking to give up their now unwanted pit, we ask why they choose to buy a pit puppy. They uniformly answer "we hear what great pets pit bulls are."
The overpopulation of pits is being caused by the pit mongers! Few other breed fans push their dogs, as they do NOT want their breed to become popular, because over-breeding results. Pit BULLY people do not care about pits, they only care about themselves..
Jacko Cleamons
1:21 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
'Debbie Bell' is obsessed with 'pit bulls' and posts the same nonsense on just about every news comment thread on the internet in any way connected with them. She's not going to educate herself folks, sorry.
debbie bell
8:14 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Do you accept the situations that many pits currently find themselves? Two pits were just euthanized today, killed because they mauled the family's 14 month old baby. Now the baby has died too. True, other dogs have killed, but not in the ways and numbers that pits do now. Most dogs bite and immediately release, so the other can leave, as that is the normal dog's/non-pit's goal: to make the other leave.
The goal of a good game bred pit is the mauling, the tugging, crushing. So many pits do not let go, do not let the other leave, or live. The original pit fanciers (fighters) gave this motto to their creation: "kill or die trying". So sad. Let pit's mercifully become extinct, thru mandatory spay/neuter microchipping. Extinct is better than what is happening to many pits and their victims now.
tammy
2:47 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
I am just blown away by the stupidity of some people. Ms Bell, it is people like you that cause prejudice against animals and people alike. You obviously have not had contact with these dogs, who do make amazing pets. The reason they are used and abused so much is because of there good temperment, willingness to please their owners and high tolerance to pain. In a nutshell...they will die for their owners. They are the most loyal dogs in existance. Also if you want to talk history, they were also the original war heros and nanny dogs. Please don't insult the intelligence of the people who truly know what bully breeds are actually about, because of your uneducated vendetta against them
debbie bell
6:33 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
To compare dog breeds to human races is not logical. Human races were created by God/Nature. Humans, using selective breeding, created dogs as we know them. No species has been changed as much as humans changed the dog. Different sizes, different shapes, different coats and different colors. And different barks and different bites. And different jobs. Some are lap dogs, some herd sheep. Pits were bred to kill dogs.
Re war dogs and nanny dogs. Just saying something doesn't make it so. I can say that parrots were used as war birds and that pioneer women caught rattle snakes and gave them to their toddlers as playthings (that's where the idea of baby rattles came from). Just saying something doesn't make it so.
How can every short-haired hero dog is a pit bull, but when a short-haired dog, with jaws like a snapping turtle, whose owner says "I bought my pit bull as a puppy", suddenly goes pit bull and kills the neighbor's dog, (doing exactly what pits were created to do), the pit BULLY people say, "That can't be a pit bull." Yeah, Rin Tin Tin and Lassie were pit bulls too, I know, I know.
So pits continuing to die in dog fights is OK with you? And dying in pounds, in all large cities without BSL? "Just don't change a thing," say the pit bully people, right?
debbie bell
3:52 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
"Great article. I won't have any trouble selling my pit puppies now! I breed good game pits and sell them for lots of money. I don't care who I sell them too, just as long as I can rake in the cash. Of course I won't mention that if your pit ever gets loose and instinct meets opportunity, she just might kill your neighbor's dog. But of course, that won't matter to me. In fact I love thinking about fighting dogs. They are magnificent when using their punishing jaws. And pits being killed by the ton at pounds, that doesn't matter to me either. I know that way too many pits are being produced, but that's no skin off my back, as long as pit mongers keep writing articles like this. Hey, that's all part of the current pit situation and as long as no one blames me, the pit breeder, I'm on the top of the world. "--your pit breeders.
P Berger
7:39 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013
Wow. Ms. Bell is full on wackadoo. I guess she spends her days searching the word pitbull on the Internet and Patch sites. She didn't read our story. She doesn't live here. Coping and pasting her brand of wing-nuttery, all the live long day. What a sad little life.
I learned a long time ago... When you see crazy coming at you, cross the street.
Time for me to go walk my Acey on my side of the West Ward. <3
debbie bell
2:37 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
Pit BULLY people care only about themselves and their ability to breed.acquire own the dog of their choice,.
When Disney's 2nd Dalmatian movie came out, Dalmatian Rescues feared that there would be increased demand and breeding of Dals, so they actively worked to educate the public. "Many Dal;s are difficult dogs, even when raised from puppy," They contacted the media, working against popularizing Dals. Some handed out brochures outside theaters. They warned abut Dal's having higher than average bite ratess, their high activity demands and their horrible 2 color shedding. Their efforts HELPED Dals, and the pounds did not fill up with Dals.
But that happened because Dalmatian rescue people were honest and cared about Dalmatian welfare. Tragically,, pit BULLY people are often NOT honest and do not care about pit welfare. So the pit crisis, overpopulation and dog fighting continues to grow and will continue, thanks tol the bully people.
Clay Hund
1:07 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Yes, she's a nut. She can be found posting the same old nonsense every day on almost every article. Sadly, this lady is out of her mind. little people with little power that just want to be heard, even if they know what they say is completely off the wall.
Dave Rex
6:51 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
Ms Bell, I can assure you that myself, P Berger, and Tammy do not fit the image that you assert. I do not know the others who have commented here, but I do know Tammy and Patti. The pits that Patti and I adopted were from the local animal shelter, not a breeder. The dogs we've adopted have shown no aggression toward other animals or people. The shelter that we adopted the dogs from is very mindful about checking personal references, performing home inspections and doing all that can be done to assure the dogs are not going to be used for fighting and that the owners are able to properly care for them. The dogs are socialized with other animals at the shelter and the staff there works closely with adopting families to make sure they're going to loving, capable families.
Making such broad generalizations based solely on breed is as asinine as making generalizations about a person based on their complexion, nationality, religious beliefs, etc. making such generalizations is pathetic and very ugly. Run along now.
debbie bell
5:24 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Dave, while that is nice that you acquired your pit in the humane way, most pits are acquired from breeders.
DO you propose we do to reduce the numbers of pits at shelters, displacing more adoptable dogs, and what do you propose we do to reduce the numbers of dead neighbor dogs, killed when pits simply experience instinct meeting opportunity? Dog fighting continues to grow, as police often look the other way. To infiltrate the large dog fighting rings, you MUST fight and kill dogs. Sounds like fun? Raid a dog fight and what happens next? The pit bully people wanna fight to save the fighting dogs. But where were they all last week and the week before, while dozens / hundreds of pits were being killed simply because they are surplus? You cannot adopt your way out of killing pits as long as they continue to breed like flies.
If breed doesn't matter, that only management and training is responsible for behavior, let's ban the breeding and sale of pits, ok? Enact and enforce spay/neuter microchipping of all pits. The only way to acquire a pit will be as you did, thru adoption of a spay/neuter from a shelter. It would take decades to create a dead-game fighting dog from a non-bully dog.
Dave Rex
6:59 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
And one more thing: one of my coworkers is alive today because his pit bull woke him up in the middle of the night when the apartment building that he lived in was burning down. His dog led him safely out of the burning building.
debbie bell
6:40 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Any dog could have done this. Other pets do this, even cats. That is not sufficient reason to continue the pit crisis and the suffering that surrounds pits.
Does it bother you AT ALL when a passing dog is mauled, while his elderly owner wails in anguish, while a good pit follows his instincts. Our community has even experienced a pit bull home invasion, where a pit chewed into a house to kill the victim dog. Several dogs have been killed in their own yards or while being walked in public. Pit owners have called our rescue. "My pit killed my landlord's dog next door, so he's making me get rid of my pit." Is that acceptable to you?
Before pits, neighbor dogs were safe in our community. Now, with the pit infestation, they are not.
mortal
9:06 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
Breed-specific legislation (BSL)
•In response to these statistics, many communities have enacted breed-specific legislation (BSL) that prohibits ownership of certain breeds, such as pit bulls, Rottweilers and others.
•Any breed of dog can bite, and research suggests BSL does little to protect the community from dog-bite incidents.
•In fact, BSL can often have unintended consequences -- such as black-market interest and indiscriminant breeding practices -- resulting in subsequent breed overpopulation that leads to increases in the number of homeless, stray and euthanized dogs.
•Enforcement of BSL has been shown to be very costly and extremely difficult to enforce. One county in Maryland spent more than $560,000 maintaining pit bulls (not including payroll, cross-agency costs and utilities), while fees generated only $35,000.5
•Responsible breeding and ownership, public education and enforcement of existing laws are the most effective ways of reducing dog bites.
•American Humane supports local legislation to protect communities from dangerous animals, but does not advocate laws that target specific breeds of dogs.
debbie bell
5:29 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Not a bsl confiscation of pits, but enact and enforce mandatory spay/neuter microchipping. No responsible pit owner is punished, as her dogs are spays/neuters. If a hound mix is misidentified, no problem, he gets neutered. Breeders of others, such as Airedales. Know who is buying your pups and for what purpose. When in doubt spay/neuter before sale, to make certain your pups won't be selected for increasing reactivity and dog aggression. If you fail and over decades your breed does become the "next pit bull", your breed is added to the mandatory spay.neuter law. And as the pit bully people insist, breed doesn't matter, so there is NO reason to oppose this solution, right?
debbie bell
5:50 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Your post suggests "responsible breeding and ownership" . How do you propose this be accomplished? .Seriously.
Arf
5:21 am on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Pit bulls are the AR15's of the dog world. Just like gun advocates say that guns don't kill, pit bill owners say pit bulls aren't dangerous. But these dogs are still the most popular breed of choice when if comes to urban intimidation. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS??? Is everyone else other than "safe pit bull" owners stupid? Insurance companies have higher rates for homes with pit bulls. Why? The fact is, your dog doesn't have to be dangerous, because in general these dogs have the real potential to be dangerous. These conversations are real because the perceptions and the observations are real. Ppeople aren't making up these negative stereotypes. They exist. The more you people try to deny the negative behaviors of these animals, the worse it is going to get! Wake up! Something needs to be done! If I see someone walking down the street with a pit, I am changing sidewalks. Plane and simple. I don't care who you are. Just the Sam as if I see someone with a gun in their pocket, I don't want to be around them. I don't care who they may have saved or protected. Most of them just want to intimidate, and that is why they need to be watched.
Clay Hund
1:03 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Maybe in the ghetto, but in nice areas, it's simply not the case. Stop blaming the dog, and place blame on crappy owners, which you describe. until you pea brained individuals figure that out, nothing will get any better. Pit bulls aren't going anywhere, except up in popularity, and you can thank all of the haters for exploiting the pit bull, making a scene, putting them in the limelight. If you pay attention to history, every single breed that has been vilified, starts off with bad people, the bleeding heart libs cry, bring attention to the dog, the animal lovers and experts tell it like it is, adopt these dogs, public fear diminisishes, and we are left with a highly respected dog, while people cry about another breed. This is nothing new, and I wish the haters would realize that they are ultimately responsible for making the dog popular as all can be. That;s how it works, and if you understand human nature, than you completely understand what I am saying. If you fail to see it, well then you are tunnel minded or lack understanding of human nature.
mortal
3:46 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
My sister had a Bensji. Don't know what it is look it up. My bro-in-law who lived next to her has 2 pitbulls. One of these dogs bit 4 people numerous times while the other never did. The dog who bit not only bit me and my sister but bit my bro-in-laws daugher who was 4 at the time, my niece who was at least 6 at the time and almost bit my nephew who was a toddler. Take a guess which one?
debbie bell
6:50 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
To compare normal dog "bites" to the attacks that require 'copter rides to trauma centers is ludicrous, and very telling of the pit monger's denial of the real situation.
When a Chimp ripped the face off the neighbor, removed both hands and both eyes of the poor woman, this attack should not be compared to the primate bites of a 2 year old human child biting another child in daycare. Yes, both are primate bites, but DAMAGE MATTERS. But I suppose you, mortal, would consider these "bites" to be the same.
When your "bites" occurred, did they need to stab the dog to death in order to free the victim?
In the 24 hours, a (tragically mutant pit) attacked a neighbor and wouldn't/couldn't let go. The victim dragged the pit, whose jaws were clenched on his arm, back into an apartment, they got knives and stabbed the poor pit to death. Perhaps if he knew about break sticks the pit could have lived. Then an 14 month old baby, attacked by the family pits, got a trauma flight to the hospital and in that case, two pits were killed. These dogs are just being good pits. Even if you cared about pit welfare, you would work to end the breeding of these handicapped dogs. .
debbie bell
6:47 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Some compare the other breeds to the pit bulls. Even when Dobermans, GSD's, Rottweilers were the popular power dogs, chained outside, used as weapons, they NEVER killed neighbor and passerby dogs in the ways and numbers that pits do now.
One pit bully person, writing in defense of pit ownership, posted that, although he was opposed to dog fighting, he did think pits looked magnificent while fighting
mortal
9:09 pm on Wednesday, March 6, 2013
Lady, read it again. I am telling you that the BENSJI is the one that was biting small children and it's own owners while the others did not. You are fighting against the breed of the dog when you need to fight against the people who do this to these poor dogs. They are good dogs and they protect their families as you would your own. The only reason those bites did not result a "chopter ride" is because we were there to throw him off. The stereotype of these dogs is nothing more than ignorance and is no different than the racism that occurs in our species. To assume that all of them are "bad" is to assume you know everything.
tammy
2:35 pm on Friday, March 8, 2013
There is no reasoning with people like ms bell. People like her are the reason that pitties have a bad name and cause media frenzy. I did not invent...or just say the things I did. They are prooven facts. The comments and info ms bell is giving, is simple her entitled though sad opinion of a phenomenal breed of dog. Not fact. Being a dog lover, especially of bully breeds, I too would love for them to no longer be bred, because I see so many at the shelter, who are warm and loving dogs who were disregarded like garbage because of the anti pit people like ms bell who either won't allow them on their property, insure them or fear them in general because of all the fabricated or sensationalized media. Are the pits that don't like other animals or can be aggressive? Absolutely. Just like there are every other breed of dog. The difference being any other dog is not big news. Unlike ms bell, I work with pits many hours each week and the affection and loyalty given by most is amazing. I say most because dogs are individuals and there will always be some that don't fit the true mold....not the one painted by the clueless.
Sarah Rider
8:26 am on Wednesday, May 1, 2013
Pit Bulls are good animals but if they live in a bad enviroment and the owners ignore and treat them bad and train them to attack they will be vicious animals. You have to train them and yes they can make good pets but you have to train them. I know people dislike pits and are afraid of them but its the enviroment and the owner who makes them have either a good reputation or a bad reputation. I love animals a lot and yes i love pitbulls and I think they are misunderstood.