I've never shown a license to doctor, and (have 4)most just ask if "any change?" They may copy cards, but never asked for anything in I. D.

while they have the right to ask, you also have the legal right to decline to show ID, it is not a law for medical coverage, read the HIPAA

Tim Killimaji puts it best - MOST do not know what they are being asked for is not legal! and the stupid argument with photo ID - read the voter law, address need to MATCH- medical offices, etc could care less if the address matches BUT uninformed will still hand it over thinking they have to!
There are TONS of people that do not have ANY photo ID and get medical care-most autistic adults do not have state issued ID-just to name one group-yet soooooo many seem clueless on this issue! LOL!!

Kicks on 4th You have to be competent to vote.

why are convicts excluded from voting then?

Tim are you insane??? You are really asking why criminals aren't allowed to vote????

Amend how does showing a valid state ID hinder our rights???? We just want to make sure the person showing up to vote is really who say they are. Would you rather us fingerprint voters or maybe a dna sample. No one is keeping records of who that person votes for or even who votes. You claim is without merit. Maybe we should take their photo instead of showing an id.

Are you insane??? Asking for a photo ID is not restricting voting. Let me ask you how do you think these old people or disabled people cash their checks??? You need an ID to do that. Nice try

Are you living on MARS? Where do you get your "facts"? Show your ID and stop complaining.Next time they ask for your Id to cash a check or get on a plane just say ITS MY RIGHT Wow , this is why we are in the mess we are in.....Remember to vote NOV 9 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not on the left. I think it's terrible that we are creating a problem (the possibility that innocent people are not able to vote) where there is no evidence of voter fraud. Our time would be better spent working to trim the budget and streamline government. This is simply adding to the beaurocracy at the expense of freedom to vote. Show me where there is a problem with voter fraud, and I will be more amenable to finding solutions to that. Some states, such as Washington, do almost all voting by mail-in ballot. It is not even necessary to go to the polls anymore. Voting should be made easier and more accessible, not restricted unnecessarily.

OK, Bill, I bite. Show me the money. Please show me a study that confirms your view that there is voter fraud in PA. You don't have to be "OK with voter fraud" to be against this legislation.

Wrong George you are ok with voter fraud if you do nothing about it just like if you saw a husband beating his wife and you did nothing to stop it. That would me you condone domestic violence. One case of voter fraud is too much. Both parties make me sick and I don't trust either one from stooping so low to commit voter fraud.

Bill, your argument is ridiculous. If I saw a husband beating his wife, I would do something to stop it. If I saw someone committing voter fraud, I would stop that, too. A difference here is that it just hasn't happened. Turn off your Fox news and do some research of your own before spouting other people's terrible ideas.

How is this going to reduce the vote???? Do a google search and you will see the fraud. You can be registered in two states and vote in two states and never be caught, this will stop that. So please tell me how this will reduce voting???????

Martha,

I absolutely agree with your question. Is there occasional fraud? Yes, but I've never seen any evidence that it's rampant in Pennsylvania. This was clearly a case of government trying to fix something that isn't broken, and disenfranchising the poor and elderly more than any other groups in the process.

I spoke with a World War II veteran on Sunday who found it ironic that his generation battled and defeated tyranny and preserved freedom, and he felt that since many from his generation no longer drive and probably do not own photo IDs, they're ability to vote will be greatly compromised.

He also cautioned that the use of photo IDs was more the kind of policy that totalitarian governments implement than democratic governments like our own.

Martha,
So I took the one poster's advice and I Googled 'voter fraud in Pennsylvania.' The fact of the matter is that the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania admitted in its defense of the new voter ID law that voter fraud is NOT an issue. Read this link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/pennsylvania-admits-it-no-voter-fraud-problem/2012/07/24/gJQAHNVt6W_blog.html

In the Voter ID hearing in Commonwealth Court, the Commonwealth STIPULATED that there is no record of voter impersonation fraud that this idiot bill was allegedly supposed to stop. Ergo, there is no problem of that nature.

MY GRAY HAIR IS ALL THE ID I NEED TO BUY ALCOHOL OR CIGARETTES
GET REAL

@bill. That's really lame. This was an isolated case of one woman. I'm in my 60's and never heard of voter fraud before now. From what I've read on this site lately, they should be more concerned about intelligence fraud.

no that is not the case. This nitwit registered in one twp and voted in another. Mistake at worse. NO IMPLICATION OF DOUBLE VOTING OR VOTER ID FRAUD.

Bill, we shouldn't be creating legislation because you "bet" something is happening. Please think a bit before you write some of the things you do. You are making yourself appear to be a reactionary who places his beliefs in how things should be ahead of the facts of how things are.

Hey Amend guess what I'm talking to a fictional person right now because I know you name isn't Amend so by your rational its absurd. Get over it, it passed and is a law you know like Obama Care!!!! deal with it. You and all your buddies keep mentioning this will stop certain people from voting show me evidence of that. You can't base your arguement on something that is believed isn't that what you said. Thats a common liberal tactic does as I say not do as I do. Please show me proof of any voters who don't have a state ID?????? I know seniors have an ID they have to to have a bank account or cash their social security check same for people on disability. You know its illegal to not have an ID??? The police can detain you, its called a John Doe arrest. People like you will criticize anything a republican does. Wonder why we are in this mess just look in the mirror!!!!!

haha nice!!! Wish there was a like button

What you describe just doesn't happen, Hugh. If you want to avoid the problem of someone voting in another's place, run the elections over mail-in ballot, like Washington State. If someone's ballot doesn't arrive, they get a new one. Cancel the old one so no one can use it. There are other ways of hatching this egg than the current, misguided solution.

If anyone is still interested in this dialog, here's an interesting article: http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/14/13266161-poll-most-favor-voter-id-laws-but-public-awareness-of-their-effect-is-low?lite